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The Truth About Transfers (Or Something Like That)

By now you've all heard the news:  Reggie Smith announced Monday that he's transferring from Marquette University, effective, like, now.  Predictably, the standard reactions to such an announcement have come flooding in.   Fans have expressed a variety of sentiments from: "The kid obviously wasn't tough enough to make it here, good riddance" to "This is obviously a sign that we have a serious problem here and I think we may need to be worried about Buzz Williams' ability to lead this program."  Others have simply chalked this up as another kid letting his parents, who think he's better than he really is, lead him away from the program - the "Maymon Scenario."  Badger fans, always eager to offer their two cents, have chimed in with accusations of Buzz being a liar and promising the world to every recruit he brings in.  They've also kindly pointed out that Reggie Smith clearly doesn't care about academics and will never get his PhD, walk on Mars and cure cancer like every student athlete at UW-Madison will.

Undoubtedly the truth lies somewhere in between all of that nonsense.  For whatever reason, the kid and his family felt that Marquette wasn't the best for him and his basketball future.  That's fine.  We wish him the best, no hard feelings.  But what the real question is, "What does this mean for Marquette?"  This is the second mid-season transfer in as many years.  And Smith's transfer makes him the 4th player to transfer out of the program in the past two years.  (And I'm not even counting Liam McMorrow, who sat out and then was never medically cleared to play in his one season at Marquette.  If you want to include him go ahead, but I'd say he only counts as a half a transfer.  So, if you want, you can call it 4.5 transfers.)  Alarmists and Badger fans will say this is a sign that there is something seriously wrong with the program and with Coach Buzz.  Those who want to try and remain positive, despite the way things may look, will say every program has transfers, these are all kids that couldn't cut it anyway, and this is no big deal.

So we revved up the Anonymous Eagle Research Department* to see just how Marquette's recent string of transfers stacks up against other Big East programs, and others around the country.

*Anonymous Eagle Research Department = me + Google

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First, a lot was made today out of Buzz Williams' comment today that he wasn't concerned and that "40% of freshmen across the country are transferring."  A number of people were quick to jump on that line as Buzz being full of crap, or just trying to do some damage control.  There's one thing I've learned in the past three years: you don't want to argue statistics with Buzz Williams.  Professional journalist Todd Rosiak pointed to this item - a letter from the NABC to Division I coaches regarding the elimination of the July evaluation period - as proof that Buzz knew what he was talking about.  I'll spare you the entire letter.  Here's the pertinent part.

In light of the fact that 40% of our incoming freshmen leave the institution they signed to attend by the end of their sophomore year, an action, such as the elimination of July evaluation, would add to the problem of retaining student-athletes.

In short: if anyone out there really thinks Buzz is just pulling numbers out of his ass, don't bet on it.

As for how Marquette stacks up with other Big East schools, I scoured a number of college basketball blogs to try to compile a list of players that have transferred out of Big East programs in the last two years (that is, since August 2009, when Brett Roseboro left Marquette).  Based on what I was able to dig up, Marquette definitely has one of the highest number of transfers in the entire conference.  MU had five players on the 2010 transfer list, including McMorrow.  That was the second highest in the entire league.  Only Rutgers, which fired its (possibly insane) coach and is a program in complete disarray, had more transfers with seven.  The next closest schools were Providence (4) and UConn (3).  Going back to 2009, Marquette's five transfers again rank behind only Rutgers (8) and ties MU with Providence.  Seton Hall, St. John's and UConn are all at four. 

The good news, then, is that while Marquette's transfers are numerous, they are not completely out of line with other teams in the conference.  The bad news, however, is the teams that they are in line with are teams like Rutgers, Seton Hall, St. John's and Providence.  You might recognize them as the teams that have occupied the bottom third of the Big East standings for the majority of the last five years -- and half of those teams were coached, until this season, by probable sociopaths.  Obviously, these are not teams that you would like your program being mentioned alongside.  You'll notice the perennial top teams in the league are not mentioned on this list.  Villanova, Pitt, Syracuse and Georgetown have a combined three transfers in the past two years.

When you extend the comparison outside of the Big East, you begin to find the company a bit more favorable.  The following are notable programs that have had four or more players transfer out over the last year: Arizona State, Iowa State, Ole Miss, Oregon, St. Joe's, UCLA, Utah, Virginia and Washington State.  While these aren't the dregs of college basketball society, you'll notice one thing they all have in common: none of 'em made the NCAA Tournament in 2010.  Clearly, this is not a plan for long term success.

Lastly, I remind everyone that transfers do happen.  They happen to everyone, and they happen with some very highly touted players.  In 2008, Georgetown lost both a McDonald's All-American in Vernon Macklin, and the son of an NBA star (and Marquette legend) in Jeremiah Rivers.  UConn lost the No. 10 prospect in the country when Curtis Kelly transferred to Kansas State. It happens.  And to this point, the players MU has lost have been, at best, role players and, at worst, bench warmers (with the jury still being out on Smith, of course).  It's not as if the players that have left are guys that we anticipated being cornerstones of the program.  Buzz and Co. already have a point guard committed to help fill the void next year. 

So yes, Reggie's departure hurts.  It hurts the depth of the team this year and removes a guy who would be playing with a year of Big East experience under his belt next year.  That, and it's kind of a bummer because we had kind of taken a liking to the kid.  And I don't think this is a trend that can continue if we hope to have success going forward.  But it isn't the end of the world.  It isn't an indictment of Buzz Williams or the program.  And it certainly isn't grounds for heating up anyone's seat.  Let's hope that the team can rally like it did last year, and make another push to the Big Dance.  If that happens, then Reggie Smith becomes just a footnote to the season.

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Good work, Anonymous Eagle Research Department.

I apologize that the Federal grant money didn’t arrive in time for you to stock up on “research supplies.”

I’m not smart enough to look at the other stuff and do anything but drool and mumble.

by Rubie Q on Dec 28, 2010 9:11 AM CST reply actions  

Another Factoid I found

And apparently forgot to include was this:

Foxsports.com’s Jeff Goodman puts together a list of transfers each year. He pointed out that the 2010 list had over 350 players and was still growing. And that didn’t include midseason transfers from last year or this year. So, it’s becoming more and more commonplace for kids to look elsewhere if things aren’t to their liking early on.

We all have to chase one rabbit. If we try to chase two rabbits we won't catch either of 'em.

by Mr. Kensington on Dec 28, 2010 9:35 AM CST up reply actions  

Alarmists and Badger fans will say this is a sign that there is something seriously wrong with the program and with Coach Buzz.

Surely there’s a happy medium in here; I don’t mind being labeled an alarmist, except when that word is immediately followed by “and Badger fans.”

There’s room for a guy who’s a teensy bit worried that we’ve whiffed, and whiffed badly, on three of our precious scholarships in the last 15 months, yes?

I’m not smart enough to look at the other stuff and do anything but drool and mumble.

by Rubie Q on Dec 28, 2010 9:16 AM CST reply actions  

I think the operative word there is "seriously"

Obviously it isn’t a good thing. But I don’t see it as a sign that we’re in deep, deep trouble.

A lot of the people mentioned on those lists were probably reaches to begin with. And most of those reaches were caused by our desperation for post players. Mbao, McMorrow, Roseboro all came as players that fans and coaches alike would say they hoped might help, but all were obviously gambles.

We all have to chase one rabbit. If we try to chase two rabbits we won't catch either of 'em.

by Mr. Kensington on Dec 28, 2010 9:22 AM CST up reply actions  

Not deep trouble, no.

But we only get 15 of these scholarships. (It is 15, right?) I’m worried that we’re wasting valuable assets on players who, apparently, (1) plainly can’t hack it here, and/or (2) don’t have the requisite character to be part of the program … and our Coach and coaching staff can’t identify those problems even after months and months and months of recruiting the kids.

I’m not smart enough to look at the other stuff and do anything but drool and mumble.

by Rubie Q on Dec 28, 2010 9:29 AM CST up reply actions  

No doubt

But is it worse to miss on a kid who then transfers elsewhere, or is it worse to miss on a kid who just sits on the end of the bench and eats up a scholarship for the next 4 years? Plenty of schools who may not have transfers have guys like that. Recruiting is always a gamble. But you have to be right more times than you’re wrong. Or at least when you’re right you have to be really right, so that player can make up for other misses (See: Wade, Dwyane). I’d say Buzz is still in the evaluation period in that regard.

We all have to chase one rabbit. If we try to chase two rabbits we won't catch either of 'em.

by Mr. Kensington on Dec 28, 2010 9:42 AM CST up reply actions  

It's worse when you miss so badly that the kid transfers after half a year

and you’re left playing with a short deck two years in a row.

I’m not smart enough to look at the other stuff and do anything but drool and mumble.

by Rubie Q on Dec 28, 2010 9:46 AM CST up reply actions  

Good point

But looking back did we really miss Maymon last year? And until his recent starting spurt, Reggie seemed ticketed for the “buried on the bench freshman” role.

We all have to chase one rabbit. If we try to chase two rabbits we won't catch either of 'em.

by Mr. Kensington on Dec 28, 2010 10:01 AM CST up reply actions  

Right, good retort.

I think it’s hard to say if we missed Maymon last year. We won 10-plus in the BEast and made it to the Dance … and yet, maybe J-May grows into a Jimmy Butler in ‘08-’09 role, maybe he spells Lazar so ’Zar has fresh(er) legs down the stretch, or maybe he sulks on the bench for the rest of the year as TIMMAY! becomes a world-class distraction to the coaches and players. Who knows?

I guess I’m more frustrated that every damn year we come in talking about our improved depth — maybe we can press! Maybe we can throw out different looks with different personnel groupings! — and then it’s the first week of January and I look up and GODDAMMIT if we aren’t running a seven-man rotation again because somebody got hurt and somebody transferred.

I’m not smart enough to look at the other stuff and do anything but drool and mumble.

by Rubie Q on Dec 28, 2010 10:13 AM CST up reply actions  

That's the biggest concern for me

Guys aren’t growing into bigger roles as sophomores, because they’re leaving as freshmen. One of my most common rants is about the importance of seniors. We aren’t getting guys to grow up in the program and thus show the younger guys what it’s all about. And it’s hard to replicate that process with JUCOs or other transfers (in). Hopefully Junior, E-Will, Vander, Jamail, etc. will be around long enough to provide that base and that leadership for future classes.

 But then again, even with one of the best senior leaders in school history in the mix last year, Maymon still bolted. So who knows?

We all have to chase one rabbit. If we try to chase two rabbits we won't catch either of 'em.

by Mr. Kensington on Dec 28, 2010 10:43 AM CST up reply actions  

And

I’m not saying it isn’t a disturbing trend. But should the response be moving to DEFCON 4 or DEFCON 2?

We all have to chase one rabbit. If we try to chase two rabbits we won't catch either of 'em.

by Mr. Kensington on Dec 28, 2010 9:44 AM CST up reply actions  

It's Threat Level Midnight.

I’m not smart enough to look at the other stuff and do anything but drool and mumble.

by Rubie Q on Dec 28, 2010 9:53 AM CST up reply actions  

I still think this is a ripple effect to the Crean departure

The previous 2 seasons (and offseasons) have been a bit chaotic to say the least. As a consequence of all of the shuffling, every year Buzz has had to bring in an unusually large amount of new faces. If my memory serves me, Buzz has brought in 5 new guys each of the past 2 seasons, which means, these 10 new guys are competing for meaningful minutes on top of competing against the vets in Butler, Fulce, and Otule. On top of that, these classes were nationally ranked meaning they are DEEP in talent.

As Mr. K stated (Maymon aside), those that transferred were not exactly the cream of the crops in these classes. In Reggie’s case, he is a hybrid guard trying to convert to this team’s PG. IMO, Buzz thinks/wants Cadougan to be the team’s main floor general and Vander is obviously the current and future 2 guard with the veterans DJO and Buycks currently already consuming much of the time at those 2 positions. On top of all that, Buzz has another true PG coming in next season. All that said, I think it was pretty obvious that unless there were injuries or other transfers at the guard positions, Reggie really didn’t wasn’t going to get a huge role on this team and thought it was in his best interest to go elsewhere and I completely agree with him. I don’t like that he left, and would have preferred he stay, but I can clearly see his motives.

by Mr.McCarter on Dec 28, 2010 10:38 AM CST reply actions  

No.

No more Crean excuses. The four players we’re talking about — Roseboro, Maymon, Mbao, and Reggie — were Buzz’s guys. This ain’t Pat Hazel we’re talking about.

I’m not smart enough to look at the other stuff and do anything but drool and mumble.

by Rubie Q on Dec 28, 2010 10:42 AM CST up reply actions  

I'm not necessarily saying it's Crean's fault and yes they were Buzz's guys...

But this team was absolutely depleted, and bringing large classes consecutively has just made things extra difficult. I mean, how do you keep essentially 10 relatively new faces happy? There just aren’t the minutes to go around.

by Mr.McCarter on Dec 28, 2010 10:54 AM CST up reply actions  

My point was

last year’s class didn’t have to be a large one. Buzz needed to replace three seniors: Mo, Cooby, and ‘Zar. Because of the Roseboro and Mbao and Maymon fiascoes, he had to add three more players. That’s on Buzz, not a “ripple” effect because Crean left.

I’m not smart enough to look at the other stuff and do anything but drool and mumble.

by Rubie Q on Dec 28, 2010 11:01 AM CST up reply actions  

I disagree

Roseboro and Mbao were gambles as a DIRECT result of the shambles that Crean left. Aside from Otule and Hazel…..nope I’m not even going to include them, there was ZERO help regarding the freshman and sophomore classes when Buzz entered his first season. Nobody ventured to think that we were going to be as good as we were last year…..that Zar was eventually going to be a first round pick…..and that Mo and Cubi would have to play insane minutes and still shoot at an insane clip, so Buzz had to roll the dice on some last minute prospects in an attempt to at least weather the storm. That said, after the 3-amigo class graduated, and the likes of Mbakwe, Christopherson, T.Taylor, Nick Williams bolted, we were all predicting the “dark ages” of MU hoops (Lazar aside).

What I really find interesting is that Crean and Buzz have now had 2 full seasons. Buzz has 2 tournament appearances, Crean didn’t even hit double digit wins 1 season. Buzz has had transfers, Crean has had transfers. Yet, the IU faithful are maintaining faith and patience with Crean, while many MU faithful are calling for his head. I’m not happy with the transfers but my lord do you really want to can him and start this horrific cycle over again? I’d hate for you to be my boss with those high expectations!

by Mr.McCarter on Dec 28, 2010 11:20 AM CST up reply actions  

Wait

Weren’t you the one that said that a sub-.500 Big East season could land Buzz on the hot seat?

I’m not smart enough to look at the other stuff and do anything but drool and mumble.

by Rubie Q on Dec 28, 2010 11:48 AM CST up reply actions  

I did say that

Doesn’t mean that was my opinion. I just wonder what Cottingham and Co. think of the constant shuffling. Do they think it’s simply a necessary evil or do they think it’s an unfortunate circumstance as a result of Buzz and thus a black eye on the program?

by Mr.McCarter on Dec 28, 2010 11:56 AM CST up reply actions  

And I don't know what you're reading

but I’m not seeing a lot of patience and maintaining the faith when it comes to Crean. That program is still in shambles — a home loss to Penn State to open the Big 10/11/12 season? — and the masses are starting to rumble.

I’m not smart enough to look at the other stuff and do anything but drool and mumble.

by Rubie Q on Dec 28, 2010 11:50 AM CST up reply actions  

From the admins, maybe.

Not from the fanbase. They’re getting antsy.

I’m not smart enough to look at the other stuff and do anything but drool and mumble.

by Rubie Q on Dec 28, 2010 11:58 AM CST up reply actions  

Are you kidding me?

The IU fans have been going bananas over the in-state Zeller family. Cody (I think) is the first home grown child to NOT go play ball in the great state of North Carolina. It was a must and huge get for smarmy Tom Crean.

by Mr.McCarter on Dec 28, 2010 12:03 PM CST up reply actions  

Talking recruiting is great in the offseason.

When the conference season is in swing, people don’t give a shit who’s coming in next year. The shouts will grow louder when the team is looking up at Penn State in the Big 10 standings.

I’m not smart enough to look at the other stuff and do anything but drool and mumble.

by Rubie Q on Dec 28, 2010 12:05 PM CST up reply actions  

Probably.....but we already know most fans are ridiculously unreasonable

And I imagine they at least give him 2 years with Zeller to show some major improvements.

by Mr.McCarter on Dec 28, 2010 12:10 PM CST up reply actions  

Absolutely.

But they’ll probably wonder why we care about a Big 10 school that we haven’t played in forever.

I’m not smart enough to look at the other stuff and do anything but drool and mumble.

by Rubie Q on Dec 28, 2010 12:14 PM CST up reply actions  

I'd just like to gauge where the majority of the fanbase is regarding Crean

Both of our programs were blown up, and while we’ve had more success comparativly, I think there’s quite a bit of uneasiness within the MU fanbase regarding Buzz…….and it’s growing annually in spite of the success.

by Mr.McCarter on Dec 28, 2010 12:20 PM CST up reply actions  

Knock yourself out.

Here’s the Crimson Quarry. Play nice.

I’m not smart enough to look at the other stuff and do anything but drool and mumble.

by Rubie Q on Dec 28, 2010 12:28 PM CST up reply actions  

I see what your saying... kind of

When Crean left we lost Mbakwe, Christopherson, and Hazel (not to mention Tyshawn Taylor and Nick Williams) as a direct result. That forced Buzz to have to reload quickly. It’s hard to have everyone work out when you’re bringing in 5 new players every year.

But on the flip side of that, having guys come in and then transfer only perpetuates that cycle. It’s like we haven’t been able to effectively fill those holes, and we have to keep trying every year. Eventually you have to create some stability, and eliminate the high turnover rate.

We all have to chase one rabbit. If we try to chase two rabbits we won't catch either of 'em.

by Mr. Kensington on Dec 28, 2010 10:49 AM CST up reply actions  

This is the downside of bringing in so many "highly touted" players......

They all are good enough to play at the D1 level right away and while they might say they don’t “expect” to start right away and will have to earn their keep, I don’t believe that’s what they think in the back of their minds. And since our name isn’t Duke, Kentucky, Kansas, they eventually get impatient.

by Mr.McCarter on Dec 28, 2010 11:02 AM CST reply actions  

I think the main point is...

The carousel needs to stop spinning. No one’s calling for anyone’s head, but consider this:

When we take the floor next year, Buzz’s 4th season, we will have only 2 seniors (both JUCOs). That’s not a good foundation for a winning program.

My hope is that this is the end of this trend. Barring anything else crazy happening, the junior class will be Junior, Williams, and Otule (red shirted, of course). The sophomore class will have Vander, Jones, Gardner and Wilson (who still counts because it’ll be his 2nd year in the program).

That’s the core group of guys that will determine our success or failure going foward. If these guys continue to get plucked off by transferring or whatever else, that’s not going to bode well for continued success. And lack of success never bodes well for head coaches.

We all have to chase one rabbit. If we try to chase two rabbits we won't catch either of 'em.

by Mr. Kensington on Dec 28, 2010 11:39 AM CST reply actions  

I totally agree

And in spite of this legitimate statistic about 40% transfer rate, I predict that if we take a step back this/next season and 1 or 2 more guys exit during that span, that Buzz will be shown the door.

by Mr.McCarter on Dec 28, 2010 12:00 PM CST up reply actions  

I seriously doubt that.

I’m not smart enough to look at the other stuff and do anything but drool and mumble.

by Rubie Q on Dec 28, 2010 12:03 PM CST up reply actions  

Maybe not

But I can’t imagine the major players at MU are in love with the constant influx of JuCo players and the constant departure of players. Winning sweeps all of that under the rug, but a couple years of mediocrity brings all of that right back to the forefront.

by Mr.McCarter on Dec 28, 2010 12:14 PM CST reply actions  

Buzz ain't going anywhere anytime soon

Also, this calls for a transfer pool at the beginning of next year. Hell, we should start one for the remainder of this year.

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by Warrior Brad on Dec 28, 2010 12:23 PM CST reply actions  

Yikes.....that's bad karma dude

And I care not to think of such things (ahem…jamail jones….cough)

by Mr.McCarter on Dec 28, 2010 12:33 PM CST up reply actions  

Yeah

Don’t talk like that. I think that Jones will actually see his role increase with the departure of Reggie. Vander’s going to play more one, that opens up minutes at the two.

We all have to chase one rabbit. If we try to chase two rabbits we won't catch either of 'em.

by Mr. Kensington on Dec 28, 2010 12:41 PM CST up reply actions  

Vander's going to play more one

but not THAT much more one; maybe five or seven minutes a game.

I’m not smart enough to look at the other stuff and do anything but drool and mumble.

by Rubie Q on Dec 28, 2010 12:44 PM CST up reply actions  

Right

Which is up from zero if Reggie’s here and everyone’s healthy. So there’s 5-7 minutes available for someone else to get some run at the two.

We all have to chase one rabbit. If we try to chase two rabbits we won't catch either of 'em.

by Mr. Kensington on Dec 28, 2010 1:32 PM CST up reply actions  

I agree with that (regarding Jones)

And that’s part of the silver lining in this whole situation (if there is any). I think Jones has as much potential offensively as Vander does and could be a really good player with the right mentality and coaching. Thus I’m hoping Reggie’s exodus opens the door for Jamail to show some things and earn more minutes as the season progresses.

by Mr.McCarter on Dec 28, 2010 12:49 PM CST up reply actions  

God, tomorrow can't come soon enough.

I can finally get back to complaining about how soft this team is instead of complaining about guys who aren’t on the team anymore.

I’m not smart enough to look at the other stuff and do anything but drool and mumble.

by Rubie Q on Dec 28, 2010 1:56 PM CST reply actions  

We could always talk recruiting!

Now that we have another scholarship available, how are we gonna fill it? We’re still in on Jarion Henry, a 6’7" SF from Dallas. Personally, I’d like to see us add a shooter. We’ve got quite a few slashers and attack the rim types now, I think a reliable 3-point threat would fit quite nicely with this crew.

We all have to chase one rabbit. If we try to chase two rabbits we won't catch either of 'em.

by Mr. Kensington on Dec 28, 2010 2:56 PM CST up reply actions  

Like I said:

tomorrow can’t get here soon enough.

I’m not smart enough to look at the other stuff and do anything but drool and mumble.

by Rubie Q on Dec 28, 2010 3:03 PM CST up reply actions  

I'm just sayin...

If you’ve got guys that can drive and draw defenders, it would be nice to have a guy to knock down open looks when they kick it out.

Discreetly nods head in the direction of DJO

We all have to chase one rabbit. If we try to chase two rabbits we won't catch either of 'em.

by Mr. Kensington on Dec 28, 2010 3:20 PM CST up reply actions  

Maybe that's Jamail.

Maybe DJO wakes up.

Maybe I’m reaching.

Maybe I’m bored.

I’m not smart enough to look at the other stuff and do anything but drool and mumble.

by Rubie Q on Dec 28, 2010 3:24 PM CST up reply actions  

Christopherson would be a senior this year, correct?

It’s always good to have seniors.

We all have to chase one rabbit. If we try to chase two rabbits we won't catch either of 'em.

by Mr. Kensington on Dec 28, 2010 4:22 PM CST up reply actions  

Indeed.....he along with Mbakwe

How much better might we be with those guys? (Although who knows how different our roster would look if they were still here, ie. recruits like Crowder may have chosen elsewhere)

by Mr.McCarter on Dec 29, 2010 7:25 AM CST up reply actions  

Buzz doesn't seem to target these guys

Too 1 dimensional. But I’ll agree with Rub that Jamail could be that guy to an extent.

by Mr.McCarter on Dec 28, 2010 3:27 PM CST up reply actions  

Ha!

I was going to post this earlier, but figured I was pushing Rubie’s button’s enough at this point.

But since you brought it up, I think I’ll make a post regarding such and breaking down all of the available prospects for the 2011 class…including stand out junior college players. Then I’ll break it down into areas of need and who Buzz should target…..with a follow-up of 2012/2013 targets.

J/K Rub!

by Mr.McCarter on Dec 28, 2010 3:25 PM CST up reply actions  

Don't not post it on my account.

It ain’t my bag, baby, but that doesn’t mean it wouldn’t interest other people.

I’m not smart enough to look at the other stuff and do anything but drool and mumble.

by Rubie Q on Dec 28, 2010 3:33 PM CST up reply actions  

I'd read that!

We all have to chase one rabbit. If we try to chase two rabbits we won't catch either of 'em.

by Mr. Kensington on Dec 28, 2010 4:21 PM CST up reply actions  

+1

Although putting up a stinker and going 0-4 against quality opponents during the non-conf portion doesn’t sound like much fun either. Not a good trend setter going into Big East play

by Mr.McCarter on Dec 28, 2010 2:15 PM CST reply actions  

Who, us?

I’m sure I don’t have any idea what you’re talking about.

I’m not smart enough to look at the other stuff and do anything but drool and mumble.

by Rubie Q on Dec 29, 2010 8:02 AM CST via mobile up reply actions  

I try

It’s kind of tough to get one in every sentence. But every paragraph is totally doable.

We all have to chase one rabbit. If we try to chase two rabbits we won't catch either of 'em.

by Mr. Kensington on Dec 29, 2010 8:44 AM CST up reply actions  

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