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The Case Against…Michigan State & Tom Izzo

Earlier this week, an astute commenter asked why there is a distinct anti-Michigan State bias on this blog.  This article is an attempt to fully explain that bias.

Despite owning the month of March over the past 12 years, despite being the anti-Christ to the Red Menace of Madison, despite mentoring the man who resurrected the Marquette program, there's much to despise about Michigan St and their Lilliputian Supreme Leader, Tom Izzo.  So, in honor of Quevedo at the Buffet, let's get to the Case Against...Michigan State and Tom Izzo.  If you're lucky there will be a Bert Blyleven reference.

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  • Big 11 Member Since 1953 - I'm actually paralyzed with anger at the thought of the Big 11.  What's not to hate?  First off, that logo is deplorable.  You are one crafty Richard Jenkins lookalike Jim Delaney, sneaking that "11" in there you ornery old cuss.  I loved your work in "Cheaper By the Dozen."  The Big Ten is that high school classmate that choppers into your class reunion after winning the lottery (Big Ten Network windfall).  He's old (Paterno), he's ugly (Bo Ryan), no one particularly liked him (Ohio St), but he's going to throw his weight around (leak cryptic innuendos about conference expansion) to "Get some respect dammit!"  Reference EDSBS for the best spoof on the current situation.
  • Overplayed Michigan State Anecdote #1: "We Practice Rebounding in Football Pads" - Thanks for giving Brent Musberger and the dearly departed Steve Lavin tongue wagging fodder for every MSU game since 2000 with this chalk-dry nugget.  I get it, you stress toughness and rebounding.  You need to with all the bricks your team is throwing up nightly.  Tom Crean decided to use this philosophy to injure 2-3 players a year in overly physical practices while at Marquette.  Thanks Captain 22" Inseam.
  • Paul Davis - funny how all MSU fans will agree with this one.  Somehow, this guy played in the NBA. Yes, the Clippers count or we couldn't take credit for Steve Novak.
  • Overplayed Michigan State Anecdote #2: "Steve Mariucci & Tom Izzo are friends?  Get out!" - To the rest of the nation, there's a frozen taiga area near Canada that's full of snowmobile trails, yetis, shuttered iron ore mines and retro-fitted pick-up trucks with snowplows.  It's called the Upper Peninsula.  That's where Tom Izzo and Steve Mariucci grew up together.  You've heard it at least twice in every televised MSU game since 1998.  "It's crazy to think that a successful basketball coach and a football coach who enjoyed Bill Walsh's sloppy THIRDS could grow up in the same small town!"
  • Izzo's Ineptitude Against Wisconsin - Throw me a bone here Napoleon.  I'm willing to root for you two times a year and you regularly screw that up.  In fact, you cried after losing to UW in the Big 11 tournament.  Enough on this unpleasant topic, the cretins on the Badger Scout board can fill you in if you want more.
  • Big 11 Style Basketball - Michigan State is the best example of "Big 11 basketball."  32 seconds of grabbing, an off-balance shot and five seconds of more intense grabbing.  Rinse.  Repeat.  We get a taste of it in the Big East with Pittsburgh and West Virginia, but at least Huggy looks suave in the track suit.  Pittsburgh and their Nero-esque athletic director can, in the words of Rubie Q, go die in a fire.
  • Homo-erotic Mascot Worship? - Check
  • Overplayed Michigan State Anecdote #3: The Flintstones - I get it, MSU had a bunch of guys from Michael Moore's Six Flags of Destitution.  That was a decade ago - move on.
  • Clemson of Big 11 Football - Paper tiger alert!  No one does less with more on the Big 11 gridiron than Michigan St.  No one can turn the thrill of an upset victory over Michigan into the cold reality of a three score home loss to Indiana like MSU.  Bobby Williams.  John L. Smith.  Jay Smoker.  They can't even stick with one helmet design for more than two years.  Now, a fiercer Spartan!
  • Winning Record Against MU - Basketball - Check.  Football - Check.  Sad for MSU that we beat them six times in football.
  • Winning = Senseless Violence - Congrats on your rightful place beside West Virginia when it comes to senseless couch burning and rioting when your sports team experiences a measure of success.  A MSU-WVU final guarantees the housewives of America will see some riot footage on Good Morning America come Tuesday.

There you have it, the Case Against Michigan State and Tom Izzo.  Any additional evidence is welcome in the comments.

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LMAO!!!!

“Throw me a bone here Napoleon.” This entire post is full of offensive, broad generalizations, posed by someone who is clearly biased (and perhaps mildly retarded)… And I couldn’t agree more. Funny, funny stuff.

by Mr. Kensington on Mar 30, 2010 10:55 PM CDT reply actions  

At least WVU's couch burning and rioting is moonshine-fueled.

I think we should add to the list the fact that in March MSU’s fans become intolerable. “Never bet against Izzo in the Tournament.” I will just to spite you, Sparty.

by The Freshman Mistake on Mar 31, 2010 7:16 AM CDT reply actions  

Here's the thing I don't get:

Lost in all this “Izzo is the master of March” hubbub is the inconvenient truth that Michigan State is AWFUL in the Big 11’s cockamamie 11-team tournament. They won it in ‘99 and ’00 — and haven’t been to the title game since. In fact, they’ve lost their opening game in the Big 11 tournament four times since 2000 (’01, ’02, ’05, ’10).

And yet: 6 Final Fours in the last twelve years? Something ain’t right.

by Rubie Q on Mar 31, 2010 9:06 AM CDT reply actions  

It's helps

Get his team, rest and re-focused. Georgetown spent all their time and energy trying to win the Big East Tournament and then shit the bed against Ohio.

Does anybody really care about conference tournaments? At least compared to the NCAA tournament?

Who cares if he lost the conference tournament? He wins when it counts.

by Admiral Ackbar, S.J. on Mar 31, 2010 9:12 AM CDT up reply actions  

Who cares if he lost the conference tournament?

Well, based on that story that Warrior Brad linked to that said that Izzo was “weeping” in the locker room after Sparty pooped the bed against Wisconsin in the 2008 Big 11 tournament, I’d say Izzo does.

by Rubie Q on Mar 31, 2010 9:15 AM CDT up reply actions  

Everyone

Has a moment they wish they could take back.

I’m pretty sure after all these Final Fours, he’s stopped caring about losing to Bo Ryan.

Next time Izzo’s in the Kohl Center he can look at the rafters and see zero banners associated with Bo Ryan having reached the Final Four and he’ll laugh.

by Admiral Ackbar, S.J. on Mar 31, 2010 9:21 AM CDT up reply actions  

Izzo might care

But I think Michigan State fans would gladly lose in the first round of the Big 10 tournament every year if that meant deep runs in the NCAA.

I root for the Tigers, Pistons, Red Wings and yes, the Lions.
Me in 140 characters

by ReichardZ on Mar 31, 2010 9:59 AM CDT up reply actions  

No doubt.

I’m just confused that they can look so bad in the Big 11 tournament, and then consistently turn it on a week later.

by Rubie Q on Mar 31, 2010 10:03 AM CDT up reply actions  

Interesting question

Dan Patrick asked this on his radio show yesterday:
What is more impressive—-
Izzo’s 6 Final Fours in 12 years or Coach K’s 11 Final Four Appearances since ’86, including appearances in 7 title games and 3 titles?

by The Freshman Mistake on Mar 31, 2010 1:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

That's what I thought

But I think there is an interesting argument akin to a quantity versus quality-type argument in favor of Izzo.

by The Freshman Mistake on Mar 31, 2010 1:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

Once you think about it

It is kind of a tougher call—especially because Coach K has had some terrible tourney runs in recent memory.

by The Freshman Mistake on Mar 31, 2010 1:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

The real standard should be Duke between 1986-1994

7 Final Fours in 9 seasons including 5 straight. 2 titles. This is why everybody hates them.

I root for the Tigers, Pistons, Red Wings and yes, the Lions.
Me in 140 characters

by ReichardZ on Mar 31, 2010 3:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

It's a big part of it, sure.

But I’ve got LOTS of other reasons I hate Duke. WOJO is near the top of the list.

by Rubie Q on Mar 31, 2010 3:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

Other Reasons

Cherokee Parks
My brother liking Duke
Coach K bailing on his team during a rough year
Laettner
Dicky V man-love
Coach K credit card commercials

That 86-94 run was incredible. You must consider how the game has changed since 94, which makes Izzo even more impressive. He’s done this in an era of one-and-dones and early exits to the draft. It’s not a coincidence that once Duke started losing guys early, they lost their edge.

"When a guy takes off his coat, he's not going to fight. When a guy takes off his wristwatch, watch out!"
- Al McGuire
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by Warrior Brad on Mar 31, 2010 4:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

what a cum-guzzler

"When a guy takes off his coat, he's not going to fight. When a guy takes off his wristwatch, watch out!"
- Al McGuire
www.anonymouseagle.com

by Warrior Brad on Mar 31, 2010 10:01 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

More Spartan Hooliganism

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/football/ncaa/03/31/michigan.stadium.ap/index.html
http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1976665,00.html?hpt=T2
Ok, maybe it’s a bit much to blame MSU on the 2nd link.

"When a guy takes off his coat, he's not going to fight. When a guy takes off his wristwatch, watch out!"
- Al McGuire
www.anonymouseagle.com

by Warrior Brad on Mar 31, 2010 1:52 PM CDT reply actions  

That's my home state

Sigh.

I root for the Tigers, Pistons, Red Wings and yes, the Lions.
Me in 140 characters

by ReichardZ on Mar 31, 2010 3:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

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