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Marquette Football: Undefeated Since 1960 And Staying That Way

It's okay, Buzz. You don't have to whisper. We know we're not getting a football team.

This morning on 1250 WSSP in Milwaukee, Mike Wickett followed up his tweet babbling about the possibility of a Marquette football team by actually bothering Marquette Interim Athletic Director Mike Broeker with a question about it. Broeker completely blew Wickett and co-host Chuck Freimund off, saying "No. And quite honestly: I understand that question, but that wouldn't solve any issues right now." That's exactly the right answer you want to hear from a guy who knows that the future is much more serious than idiot plans like starting a football team.

Look, people. The fact of the matter is that there is not going to be a Marquette D1 football team, either in the idiot Bowl Subdivision or the Championship Subdivision. Discussing it is a waste of effort in these tumultuous times, so we're going to lay out the exact reasons why this isn't happening now or ever.

1. There is no stadium.

According to the NCAA's 2010 attendance numbers, the lowest average attendance in D1 FBS is Ball State at 8,947. They're the only school under 10K, and they have a 25K seat stadium to get to that number. Since we obviously don't want to be chumps like DePaul and play games that are a 25-minute drive from campus, that means building a 25,000 seat football stadium in downtown Milwaukee. Anyone want to tell me where the space for that is? Also important: coming up with the money for it. Right now, the university's trying to figure out how to find the money to build the other half of the new engineering building that was cut out of the project because the economy went to hell. In case you were wondering, Akron built a 27,000 seat stadium that opened two years ago, and that cost $61.6 million just for the construction costs.

I'm sure you dreamers are shouting two things at your screen right now: Valley Fields and Miller Park. Building 25K seats around the football field at Valley Fields is out of the question, due to it being completely pinned in on four sides by, going clockwise starting in the north, the Menomonee River, the 16th Street Viaduct, Canal Street and Potowatomi Casino, and the rest of Valley Fields. And that's without getting into where you're going to park 10,000 cars down there. Miller Park is equally stupid, unless you like not playing any home games until November. Oh, and by the way, the distance from the plate to the right and left field corners is only 115 yards, and you kind of need 120 for the field and 140 for player safety.

2. The Blue And Gold Fund Doesn't Cover The Scholarships MU Can Hand Out Now.

Taken directly from GoMarquette.com:

The NCAA allows Marquette to offer 110 equivalent athletic scholarships based on our 14 intercollegiate sports, but last year we had the funds award only 92.

In picture form, because I know it's easier for some people to receive information visually:

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I got nothing else here, other than those numbers don't take into account the 24.6 men's and women's lacrosse scholarships that Marquette is allowed to start handing out this school year. If you want to argue with me on this point, take it up with Joe True instead. You should probably take your checkbook with you, though.

3. Title IX

And I quote:

No person in the United States shall, on the basis of sex, be excluded from participation in, be denied the benefits of, or be subjected to discrimination under any education program or activity receiving Federal financial assistance.

Or, as applied by Title 34 of the Code of Federal Regulations, Part 106.41(c):

A recipient which operates or sponsors interscholastic, intercollegiate, club or intramural athletics shall provide equal athletic opportunity for members of both sexes.

To put it in layman's terms, in order for Marquette to offer the maximum allowable 85 football scholarships and still receive any kind of federal financial assistance, they're going to have to either A) create enough women's sports to match it or B) eliminate enough men's sports to balance the scales. Since being a member of Division 1 requires Marquette to have seven (7) men's and seven (7) women's sports, option B is out. If I take the numbers from the graph in Part 2 and do some math, that means MU's going to have to come up with another $6+ million a year to cover the new 170 scholarships.

I don't want to hear "BUT ANDY! People will donate to fund the football team!" No. They won't. They don't donate the extra $1.14 million needed so Terri Mitchell can have the allowed 15 scholarship players instead of the 11 she has for this season, and they're not going to come up with this money either. It's worth remembering that the $6 million is just covering the cost of the students going to school. It doesn't cover their coaches, training staffs, travel, or upkeep on the multitude of facilities that are going to have to be built to allow for locker rooms and competition for all these new women's sports.

So there it is, people. Three reasons why Marquette's not getting a football team and why it would be a fool's errand to do so. Case closed. Shut it down. If you want to try to make a case in the comments, go ahead. I guarantee that you're going to get pantsed in the process.

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To underscore Andy's Title IX point:

in the run-up to adding a D-1 football team, UConn had to add scholarships in women’s hockey, swimming, lacrosse, rowing, and track and field.

There’s no way that happens here.

We pull our pants up and do our jobs here.

by Rubie Q on Sep 20, 2011 11:33 AM CDT reply actions  

UConn is also a public research university

with an annual enrollment of 30,000 students and over 200,000 alumni.

While we’re on the subject.

We pull our pants up and do our jobs here.

by Rubie Q on Sep 20, 2011 12:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

This is the Endor Campus, I take it.

We pull our pants up and do our jobs here.

by Rubie Q on Sep 20, 2011 12:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

Syracuse: Two Connections from Everywhere!

In Pac16 news – here’s how an Oklahoma State fan in Stillwater would get to Pullman for a Washington State football game. According to Kayak, there are no possible flights between the Stillwater & Pullman airports. So Cowboys fans would get in their cars and drive a 1.5 hours to OKC. Then they connect in Denver and fly into Spokane. From Spokane, it is an hour and a half on a two-lane highway to Pullman. Seems to really make sense for women’s swimming.

"When a guy takes off his coat, he's not going to fight. When a guy takes off his wristwatch, watch out!"
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by Warrior Brad on Sep 20, 2011 12:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

Time for Mr. Pickens' private jet!

Restoring carousel. Come help.

by Brewtown Andy on Sep 20, 2011 12:54 PM CDT via iPhone app up reply actions  

Just because I was curious...

4 flights a day into Pullman
15 flights a day into State College

Fire up those charter planes!

"When a guy takes off his coat, he's not going to fight. When a guy takes off his wristwatch, watch out!"
- Al McGuire
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by Warrior Brad on Sep 20, 2011 2:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

In addition to realignment...

Perhaps they should immediately implement flight schools at a handful of the participating universities. Final exam for student A = Fly defensive backfield into Pullman

by Mr.McCarter on Sep 20, 2011 3:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

I feel really guilty right now

I’ll be right back…I’m writing out a check to the Blue and Gold Fund. Damn you and your evidence in eye-catching graph form!

Don't blame me, I voted for Kodos.

by Little Miss Trouble on Sep 20, 2011 12:36 PM CDT reply actions  

Yet another reason

to snag a cheap season ticket to start accruing points: mandatory yearly donations.

Restoring carousel. Come help.

by Brewtown Andy on Sep 20, 2011 12:55 PM CDT via iPhone app up reply actions  

Here I am donating to the general fund like a sucker...

I could be sponsoring my very own student athlete!

Don't blame me, I voted for Kodos.

by Little Miss Trouble on Sep 20, 2011 4:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

Oh crap...

that was probably an NCAA recruiting violation, wasn’t it.

Don't blame me, I voted for Kodos.

by Little Miss Trouble on Sep 20, 2011 4:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

We've already reported it.

Don’t worry.

We pull our pants up and do our jobs here.

by Rubie Q on Sep 20, 2011 4:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

This sucks

I became an MU fan my freshman year in 2005. The Big east is all i know. I got angry when i had to watch games against south florida and st. johns.

I fucking hate college football so much right now.

"Sportsmanship is just loser talk for losing."

by boyonthedock on Sep 20, 2011 6:36 PM CDT reply actions  

Valid point.

Although I’m trying to figure out how he missed all the games in November and December….

Restoring carousel. Come help.

by Brewtown Andy on Sep 21, 2011 8:06 AM CDT up reply actions  

i saw those, attended them even.

but i understood. also, my lazy late coming ass could sit in the lower bowl against the prarie view a & m’s of the world, which was nice.

"Sportsmanship is just loser talk for losing."

by boyonthedock on Sep 28, 2011 2:38 AM CDT up reply actions  

2 things

1. Anyone else think Buzz is kicking himself for not taking the OU or Arkansas job when he had the chance?

2. What are the odds that a class of ’12 or ’13 recruit decommitts after MU is left in the cold with the other basketball only schools of the Big East?

by Mr.McCarter on Sep 20, 2011 9:14 PM CDT reply actions  

1) No. I’m still convinced MU’s faith means more to Buzz than anyone realizes.

2) if Buzz is worth his paychecks as a recruiter, zero.

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by Brewtown Andy on Sep 20, 2011 9:31 PM CDT via iPhone app up reply actions  

Valid Questions

1) I agree with Andy, I don’t think Buzz regrets staying. And might I add, thank Christ he did stay. This would be a bad time to be a team in transition.

2) I think that is a realistic concern. We know kids have chosen Marquette because of the conference. They’ve said as much. I’m sure the Big East and MSG and all of that were used in the pitches we made to our incoming kids. If that were to go away, I don’t know that it would result in mass defections, but it certainly wouldn’t be a good thing.

We all have to chase one rabbit. If we try to chase two rabbits we won't catch either of 'em.

by Mr. Kensington on Sep 21, 2011 10:43 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

From Andy Katz on the Pac12 rejecting the Big XII folks
What was the biggest hang-up in the Pac-12’s decision not to expand?
Pac-12 commissioner Larry Scott couldn’t get Texas to agree to equal revenue sharing with the Longhorn Network. Scott worked hard to get the Pac-12 to agree to equal shares after an era in which UCLA and USC had an advantage. The 12 remaining schools didn’t want rules for 15 and another set for Texas.

I’m shocked, just shocked that Texas was the fly in the ointment.

http://espn.go.com/college-sports/story/_/id/6998978/answering-questions-ever-changing-college-sports-landscape

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by Warrior Brad on Sep 21, 2011 8:11 AM CDT reply actions  

Oklahoma has to be livid right now.

We pull our pants up and do our jobs here.

by Rubie Q on Sep 21, 2011 8:23 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

He's incompetent at the Marrinato Level

Fake Dan Beebe is a must follow

"When a guy takes off his coat, he's not going to fight. When a guy takes off his wristwatch, watch out!"
- Al McGuire
www.anonymouseagle.com

by Warrior Brad on Sep 21, 2011 10:41 AM CDT up reply actions  

Nicely done!

I might have to refer to this once some yokel starts talking about “why don’t we start a football team?”

Football is expensive at any level. Big East football is foolishly expensive – few of the schools have the fanbase to actually fill a football stadium, new schools coming in will have to raise scads of money and actual interest that wasn’t there in the first place (St. John’s used to have football, but closed it maybe 10 years or 15 yrs ago), and then you have to spend on facilities and recruiting.

I mean, come on. So far away from profit.

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by picodulce on Sep 21, 2011 10:31 AM CDT reply actions  

I actually saw on a message board

“I’d like to have a football team, even if we are terrible.”

This isn’t even a quality discussion! This is a “can’t we spend $200 million more productively” discussion!

Restoring carousel. Come help.

by Brewtown Andy on Sep 21, 2011 11:26 AM CDT up reply actions  

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